Sukkah 49a Part 3/3

AI summary (may contain mistakes)

When do the halachos of milah apply to nesachim, and whose view does that follow? In both versions of the Gemara the Mishnah fits everyone, through wine clogged before reaching the shitin, or because the ikar mitzvah is already done. Reish Lakish has the shitin plugged during the pouring, and Rav Papa reads the word shechar as showing the mizbeach satiated.

Key points

• In the first version, the Gemara lets even the Rabbanan hold the Mishnah, when the wine clogged.
• Once the ikar mitzvah is done, the Gemara holds, milah no longer applies, despite the burning.
• Reish Lakish has the shitin plugged while the wine is poured, to fulfill bakodesh hasech nesech shechar.
• Rav Papa learns from the word shechar that a drink satiates when the throat is filled.
• Rava's drasha calls Klal Yisrael bas nadiv, after Avraham Avinu, the first of the geirim.

In this shiur

1. 0:00Nesachim and milah in the shitin
2. 2:55Second version: once the mitzvah is over
3. 6:50Reish Lakish on plugging the shitin
4. 10:05Rav Papa on the word shechar
5. 12:44Satiation from wine in the throat
6. 15:39Rava and the kos shel bracha
7. 22:23Rava's drasha on the footsteps
8. 25:48Avraham Avinu as the nadiv

Topics

• Milah
• Nesachim
• Shitin
• Maseches Sukkah